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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 14-12-2012 
Joy

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Foreland has made an amazing comeback! U know why?

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 11-09-2012 
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my dilemna is wether to write it off as bad investment, and just leave it as it is, and hope that the company turns around, or savage whatever money that is left in this counter.

Lets see if company provide any updates on the sales.

Surprising to see that prices did not drop below 50 cents??

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 11-09-2012 
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Only Tsoi knows why he sold at this price ?  Should only play S-chips with spare cash , so that even if lost all, don’t need to downgrade one’s lifestyle. Best is stay clear of the S-Chip landmine which is getting worse.

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 11-09-2012 
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Definitely. Do exercise catious. That the sale price is higher than the av. Price for the past month is scant comfort. It goes to say a lot of the owner own valuation of company...
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 Subject :Re:Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 10-09-2012 
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Another red flag?
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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 10-09-2012 
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Is Tsoi already siau?

He entered into 3 "separate off - market share sale and purchase agreements dated 7 September 2012"  to sell an aggregate of 53,000,000 of his shares in the Company.

Price: 5.8 cents.

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 06-09-2012 
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Ya, bought after it crashed early 2009. In last few yrs, S-Chips almost always rebound somewhat after crashing, though seldom to their previous high. These days, they mostly rebound  like dead cat bounce or worse , prices keep zig-zagging south.  Maybe there are just too many casualties and counting.  Newbies better stay out.   

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 06-09-2012 
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Your the other s- chip is eratat? This one has no lack of red flags flashing too
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 Subject :Re:Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 05-09-2012 
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Hi Greenrookie, I bought this at ave 9.5 cts, thinking I could make some money over short term and never intended to sell at a loss before 2Q results. However, I sold at 8.5 cts few mths ago to switch to a non S-Chip which came down quite a lot, so I was just lucky. I also switched out of my only other S-Chip abt the same time for diff reasons. I still think abt 10%  of S-Chips are well managed, so if you can find them,  you’d do well as they have been sold down so much.  But this is too tough/time consuming for me, so I am sticking to my more predictable liquid stocks just in case market corrects.   

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 05-09-2012 
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Hi relaxing, Was surprised youbailed out so quickly. Nonetheless, it should be a wise choice since it continue to head south. Thanks for your well wishes, I am mindful of the risks involved in the s- chips and appreciate your reminder about the over bullish assessment by management. Besides this, there is 1 more thing investors should be mindful of, that is no dividends is declared this quarter and in this quarter, they mentioned no dividends is declared too in the same quarter from preceding year, although it's not true. Surprised sgx never query the company.
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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 05-09-2012 
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Hi Greenrookie, I see you are still vested.  When I started this thread the day after the 1Q results ann 7th May, I felt relieved that 1Q report stated “ we remain cautiously  optimistic on the group’s encouraging performance to continue into the 2Q 2012 ”.  Hence never felt the urgency to sell until the 2Q results as I thought the Exec Chairman will not make such a statement on 7th May without strong factory orders on hand until end June . But surprisingly they announced  2Q profit guidance on 17th July.  Anyway, wish you luck.    

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 05-09-2012 
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Foreland production facilities at Andong has finally got their approvals (Land use, enviromental, etc

The fate of the production facility is one of my red flags in the company, as it will cause heavy writedown in terms of assests if it turns out to be a white elephant.

 

I will wait till the water treatment plant is built and they start moving into the new facilities and start production there before i decide what to do. I might accumulate more if Foreland is still at such price or lower.

 

Management mention that there are open to the idea of disposing/ selling the old site. Not sure how profitable the venture will be. But as long as there is no problem with the production, Foreland should have no problems suriving a few years of winter. 

 

 

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 Subject :Re:Foreland, still looking pretty.. 16-08-2012 
ek

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Hey gangho, I agree with you that the stock price is strongly supported at 22-25 cent level.

btw, how you know now "20 [2012]"?

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 Subject :Re:Re:Dukang.. 15-08-2012 
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Price is only 25% of the peak and it is difficult to further press it down. Likely chance will be pushed upward. It is interesting to note that major shareholders (hold more than 1 million shares) has grown from 13 [2009] to 18 [2010] and now 20 [2012] now controlling 98.2% of the shares. These people seem to know what they are buying
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 Subject :Re:Dukang.. 14-08-2012 
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And it can also happen in the reverse sense due insufficient free float. This can easily be manipulated. Beware..
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 Subject :Dukang.. 14-08-2012 
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Dukang looks set to be a multi-baggers in 2012. Strong 4Q Result should be the catalyst.

As there could be just around 15 million shares in the market, the price could shoot up rapidly when it starts to catch attention.

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong & Dukang.. 13-08-2012 
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You are right about RMB 10 billion (100 亿). My error and thanks for pointing it out.
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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong & Dukang.. 13-08-2012 
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Translating from the article, it mentions Dukang's revenue is expected to be over RMB 2 Bil for this year. Nowhere close to 10B. I think Dukang is aiming for 10B revenue by 2016 and not a 100B revenue as it will mean growing at exponential rate of over 100% per year
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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong & Dukang.. 13-08-2012 
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Just checked dukang's shareholders, shocked to see that 20 shareholders now own 98% of the shares, leaving only 14,367,000 shares for 288 minority shareholders. These 20 shareholders should have bought it at >31cts during IPO period. Dukang will suit Cheong Wee very well as it can be easily traded up...
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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong & Dukang.. 13-08-2012 
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That implies Dukang might have achieved RMB 700 million which is possible as it has aggressively organized a few large trade fairs first part of the year, and in just one of them, it has already secured orders of at least RMB200 million: 1)【本网讯:30 Mar 2012】在刚刚结束的成都全国春季糖酒会上,阳杜康控股有限公司传来捷报:与杜康2012年合作签约的经销商中,首批进货打款至少2000万元的就有9家,涉及总金额超2亿元。据《华夏酒报》记者了解,这9家经销商分别来自广东、新疆、天津、河南、湖北等省市的7大城市,运作的是酒祖杜康、国花杜康等核心系列产品,其中个别经销商去年就开始与杜康合作,经从杜康酒相对较高的利润空间中尝到了不少甜头,而大部分则是首次与杜康合作,主要看重的是杜康强大的品牌优势以及强劲的发展势头。 2.【本网讯:26 Apr 2012】继山东之后,洛阳杜康控股在江苏的区域招商也亮出了不俗的成绩单:酒祖杜康、国花杜康、绵柔杜康三个系列产品现场签约额收获颇丰,另有100多位经销商表示已有合作意向。 据记者了解,上述招商成绩是洛阳杜康控股是于4月21日、22日,在中国糖酒食品经销商发展论坛江苏分论坛上取得的,该论坛按照区域分为多个系列,由糖烟酒周刊杂志社和中国糖酒食品优秀经销商俱乐部联合主办,洛阳杜康控股是其白酒行业仅有的两家重要战略合作伙伴之一。 3. Singapore & Taiwan, 11 June 2012 –SGX Mainboard-listed Dukang Distillers Holdings Limited (“Dukang Distillers” or “杜康控股有限公司”, and together with its subsidiaries, the “Group”), a leading producer of white liquor (“baijiu”) in Henan Province, China, has recently signed 20 new distributors following the successful hosting of its third “Annual National Trade Fair” in Luoyang City, Henan Province. As such, the total number of distributors for the Group’s Dukang brand has grown to 222 from 202 as of March 2012. This one-day event, hosted on 18 May 2012, received an overwhelming response with participation of over 2,000 attendees which consist of distributors and downstream retailers from Henan Province and the rest of China, as well as local government ministers and alcohol associations. “无可比拟的品牌先天优势,不逊色于国内任何名酒的产品品质,强大的资本实力,清晰的产品线结构,优秀的营销团队,强大的广告宣传支持以及丰厚的利润空间是众多经销商青睐杜康的主要原因。”对于为何在地产酒强势的江苏市场,杜康能够取得较好的招商成就,洛阳杜康控股销售公司常务副总经理马金全解释说。 凭借这些较为明显的综合优势,杜康在4月初在潍坊市举行的中国糖酒视频经销商发展论坛山东分论坛上,就曾在现场斩获成绩不俗的订货单,还吸引了一大批有合作意向的经销商,打响洛阳杜康控股按区域重点招商的第一炮。
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